In episode 028 Elle chats with Kaylan about his journey to becoming a medicinal plant scientist.. From growing up in Pretoria in South Africa, to moving to pursue study in Medicinal Plants in Stellenbosch. Kaylan talks about Sceletium, the plant at the centre of his study, and how it has traditionally been used as a mood elevator. We talk about sustainable practises for obtaining this endemic plant, and the Indigenous People who contribute to science by sharing their knowledge and traditions.