Spirit Matters continues its brief hiatus. Meanwhile, here is another offering from the special series of interviews Phil did for Unity Online Radio in the spring of 2021, under the title of his book Spiritual Practice for Crazy Times. In this episode, "Living in the Heart with Sally Kempton," the longtime spiritual teacher and author of "Meditation for the Love of It" shares yogic wisdom for building resilience; finding meaning in upsets; developing the inner witness; and integrating the energy centers of the mind, heart, and belly.