In this episode, we talk about Rick’s early signs of success getting out a sales rut, and much more. Full topic list: Rick gives an update on how he and JD are getting out of a sales rut. Rick is busy and has absolutely zero free time. Tyler talks about how he's considering web forms and automations as possible features for LACRM. We discuss an alternative approach to freemium. We brainstorm how to use the "engineering as marketing" approach for LegUp Health, but don't really get anywhere.