In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the oral arguments heard by a panel of D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals judges on former President Donald Trump’s claims of absolute immunity in the election subversion criminal case. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss the efforts in multiple states seeking to disqualify Trump from running for president again by citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, including the Supreme Court’s decision to grant review of the ruling that barred Trump from the Colorado Republican primary ballot. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive content. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices