Today Andrew speaks with Dr. James McGowan, associate professor in Music in the School for studies in art and culture, and university chair in teaching innovation at Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada, to talk about how Carleton music adapted to the pandemic; innovation in pedagogical methods; and the challenges facing North American university music departments in the coming years. Our Website: https://survivingclassicalmusic.com Our Links: https://www.getsl.ink/survivingclassicalmusic Make a One-Time Donation: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=A9Q8UCN4RHBFQ or  Andrew Burn IBAN: CH97 0900 0000 2506 2331 4  Support the show (https://patreon.com/survivingclassicalmusic)