With John Fullerton, founder of Capital Institute and one of four featured experts in the "Going Circular" documentary. We may think of economics as a dry and academic pursuit, but assumptions about money and economy are both reflective of, and instrumental in, shaping our interactions with the natural world. In this provocative conversation, we explore a new way of thinking that aligns economics with living systems and the many wisdom traditions, particularly indigenous, that have stood the test of time. By applying nature’s laws and patterns of systemic health, self-organization, self-renewal, and regenerative vitality to socioeconomic systems, regenerative economics offers an emerging path forward from our current unsustainable economic system and the finance-dominated ideology that drives it. Links and other resources: