In many ways, our understanding of and our relationship to our future forms and shapes us. Yet there is a subtle feeling that this relationship with the future itself is currently changing. We are collectively confronted with a lot of problems that are already here or are approaching us fast from a horizon before us, And yet we know that we can´t solve these problems with the current mindset. We don´t even know if our collective framing of that horizon and the events that we are anticipating, is the best one. Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute, based in Sweden. Her work asks the question “How we can improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?” She just publishes her wonderful new book 'Combining', which is an embodiment of her recent work on Warm Data and offers a radical ecological approach to many of the key issues of our time: climate change, political upheaval, education, health, food and relationships. Susanne Cook-Greuter is internationally known as the leading expert in mature ego development and self-actualization. She does ongoing research and development and is outher of the book "Postautonomous Ego Development: A Study of Its Nature and Measurement" --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/podcast-c709ee4/message