What's a baby chimp worth? A sack of pangolin scales, kilos upon kilos of elephant and rhino ivory, an orphaned baby chimp, for Ofir Drori and his team, these horrors are witnessed daily as they arrest wildlife traffickers throughout Equatorial Africa. In this episode of Talking Apes, we welcome wildlife activist and eco-journalist Ofir to discuss the EAGLE Network's fight to end illegal wildlife trafficking, CITES, and that one article that he's never quite finished. Talking Apes is the podcast that gets to the very heart of what is happening with and to apes like us. We explore the world of apes and primates with experts, conservationists, and passionate primate people from around the world. Join us as we unpack their weird and wonderful lives piece by piece. Talking Apes is made possible through generous support from listeners like you and nonprofit GLOBIO  Support the show (https://talkingapes.org/donate) Support the showTalking Apes is an initiative of the nonprofit GLOBIO. Learn more: Official website: talkingapes.org Instagram: @talkingapes_podcast Twitter: @talking_apes Support our work by making a small donation here, or for access to exclusive content and rewards, click here to become a Patreon member. Thanks for listening!