Conservation is often focused on the future: safeguarding a tomorrow for the flora and fauna to secure strong biodiversity and a safe planet for our children down the road. But what about the past? The origins of conservation as we know it today? Author and science journalist Michelle Nijhuis joins us on Talking Apes to discuss the conservation story and unpack how this history has shaped our approach to protecting the wild world today.  We discuss her recent book Beloved Beasts: Fighting for Life in an Age of Extinction and dive into some of the lessons we can glean from our winding and sometimes problematic conservation history. Talking Apes is the podcast that gets to the very heart of what is happening with and to apes like us. We explore the world of apes and primates with experts, conservationists, and passionate primate people from around the world. Join us as we unpack their weird and wonderful lives piece by piece. Talking Apes is made possible through generous support from listeners to nonprofit GLOBIO.org.  Support the showTalking Apes is an initiative of the nonprofit GLOBIO. Learn more: Official website: talkingapes.org Instagram: @talkingapes_podcast Twitter: @talking_apes Support our work by making a small donation here, or for access to exclusive content and rewards, click here to become a Patreon member. Thanks for listening!