In this episode, we sit down with Peter de Vries and Josua Hundertmark to go over access lines and the safety standards of tree care in other countries. Peter de Vries is the owner of Designs by de Vries and North American Courant Vertical Living Promoter. He has been in the green industry for 25 years and specifically trees for the last seven years. Peter is also a volunteer firefighter for the past 15 years and is am currently the Fire Chief at my local hall. He has also been married for 15 years and has two sons ages 11 and 9. You can check out Peter's Instagram here. Josua "Josh" Hundertmark, has been in the trees since 2006 and self-employed since 2012. His tree care business is a small network-based tree care company. Additionally, Josua is a tree-climbing teacher in Germany as well as a Courant Vertical Living Promoter for Europe since 2021. Josua is Married and has two girls 3 and 6 years old. Currently, he is living in Michelstadt, a small town in the southern portion of Germany. You can check out Josua's Instagram here. Our sponsors for this episode are Samson Rope, Bobcat and COPMA.