“AI will not replace you, a person using AI will” is the revolutionary philosophy from OpenAI’s Independent Creative Director, and third guest in the TTLP AI series, Rodger Werkhoven. In our most provocative interview yet, Rodger, Gareth and Kerensa discuss the true impact that AI is having on today’s society, as we get a behind-the-scenes glimpse into the early stages of development within the AI powerhouse that is OpenAI.  Having joined OpenAI to work on their DALLE-2 launch, Rodger discusses how this mind-bending creative software went from test-tool to trailblazer and how it’s now changed the game for artists worldwide. However, as is testament to his catchphrase, humans aren’t lost in Rodger’s AI prophecy, as he describes how we all need to learn to utilise AI to our advantage, in whatever form that may be.  This incredibly insightful, yet slightly ominous, interview is a must-listen if you’re interested in the future of AI but also what it means for us in the present. As Rodger says, “Pandora’s box is open” and now we must wait to see what it truly holds inside… Time stamps  What excites Rodger most about the AI revolution? (01:48) Rodger’s creative process (03:49) AI artists: fact or fake? (08:25) Rodger’s OpenAI opportunity (14:35) Inside OpenAI (16:00) DALL-E’s innovation journey (24:05) Should ChatGPT be banned? (26:35) Artists vs. AI (30:35) AI’s impact on the labour market (33:51) An anti-AI advantage (40:05) Can AI be self-aware? (52:00) Rodger’s advice to future AI creatives (56:15)