While America watches the first public interview with president-elect Dunwalke since election night, sitting president Pierce begins a more private conversation. As one man lays out his vision for the country, another enlists his oldest friend in a desperate attempt to save it. New to Terms? Subscribe on smarturl.it/termsp. If you enjoyed the show, help us spread the word by telling your friends about it, following us on twitter.com/termspodcast, and completing a quick survey at Wondery.com/survey. Thanks for listening. Thank you to our sponsors: Blue Apron - Get 3 meals free on your first order when you visit them here: www.blueapron.com/president Audible.com - Get a 30-day trial membership and a free audio book when you visit them here: www.audible.com/president