Our guest is Ben Recht, Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at UC Berkeley, and co-author with Moritz Hardt of Pattern, Prediction, and Action: A Story About Machine Learning soon to be published by Princeton University Press but already freely available as a pdf format pre-print https://mlstory.org/ (here). We discuss his work and perspective on machine learning and artificial intelligence. GUEST: Ben Recht: https://twitter.com/beenwrekt (Twitter) and https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~brecht/?_ga=2.137066873.835125709.1638047158-1360907758.1638047158 (webpage) LINKS and RELATED EPISODES: https://youtu.be/4-3jAJbA-sg (AI in medicine: What's hype and what's real) (YouTube episode with Anish Koka and Ben Recht) https://accadandkoka.com/episode187 (Ep. 187 )That Bengladesh Mask Study! (with guest Ben Recht) https://accadandkoka.com/episodes/episode5/ (Ep. 5) Normal is Fuzzy (with guest Saurabh Jha) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjAFqo67yuU (Lecture) by Peter Hacker on the claims of cognitive neuroscience (YouTube)