"I'd give my life for them." Bethany and Ben's father talks about why he believes they were taken into care. “I'm really going to miss them." From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.
"You want them to like you." It is a few weeks since Julie and Robert met their new children. "It was very unusual to be called Daddy." From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.