"I didn't expect it so soon." The birth family is told adopters have been found and to prepare for their final visit to see Bethany and Ben. From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.
"You want them to like you." It is a few weeks since Julie and Robert met their new children. "It was very unusual to be called Daddy." From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.