"They had no idea of safety or danger." Who are Bethany and Ben? Meet the children at the centre of this story. Sharon the social worker looks at their progress. From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.
"You want them to like you." It is a few weeks since Julie and Robert met their new children. "It was very unusual to be called Daddy." From BBC Radio 4's The World at One, with Jon Manel.