Ari welcomes on Doug Lesmerises, host of The Kings of the North podcast, to take a deep dive into the Big Ten. Are the Buckeyes all in this season, or does their overhaul wreak of desperation (4:00)? Is Ryan Day's approach to the portal a philosophical shift in the program (12:30)? What does 2024 hold in store for new AD Ross Bjork and Day, himself (20:15)? Ari and Doug evaluate the Northern region of college football, and they discuss if another team can win like Michigan did this season (29:00). Afterward, The Athletic's Scott Dochterman joins the show to discuss Kadyn Proctor's return to Iowa City, Beth Goetz named AD, and the Hawkeyes' OC search (44:00). Ari and Scott then organize the hierarchy in the Big Ten (57:00). Does Oregon not belong in the top tier? Lastly, the guys try to list as many obscure CFB WRs as possible in two minutes (1:05:00). Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices