Anders & Andy interview the unmasked McKinsey whistleblower and journalist Garrison Lovely about consulting with Rikers and ICE. Other topics include bread fixing, opiates, McKinsey 4chan, and Mayor Pete. In the second Garrison takes our answers on being a leftist Effective Altruist. For the full episode, support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifada Garrison's podcast: https://mostinterestingpeople.podbean.com Original whisteblower article: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/02/mckinsey-company-capitals-willing-executioners Recent Nation article: ww.thenation.com/article/society/mckinsey-whistleblower-confessions/ Jacobin interview: https://jacobin.com/2023/10/mckinsey-garrison-lovely-whistleblower-consulting-firms Song: They Might Be Giants - Ampersand