Rob Barber from Golden Africa Safaris joins us in studio as we discuss our reaction to a poorly penned article that argues for trophy hunting as a suggested force for conservation. Debate rages as we explore this contentious issue. Is the value of trophy hunting overstated? Are local communities truly engaged with? What drive trophy hunting as conservation?  Simon points out that arguing that anti hunters are the emotional ones, misses the point – are trophy hunters the overly emotional ones after all…? We think so and explain why…  Rob explains his deep love and affection for the potential role of anthropology in tourism, specifically in Botswana. But how do we honor first nation people in tourism and conservation? Golden Africa Safaris have perhaps got it right… Jim Jeffries explains the hypocrisy and classism associated with trophy hunting. Crass, but he makes a good point.