How do we pursue justice when 'losing is likely'? How can faith teach us to better care for the earth? Why does the technocratic language of the  White Western Left, fail in providing spiritual reasons for overturning Capitalism?  I discussed all this with  Dr. Brad East of Abilene Christian University & his essay for The Point Magazine: 'When Losing is Likely, Wendell Berry's Conservative Radicalism' Dr. East's essay for The Point Magazine, When Losing is Likely, Wendell Berry's Conservative Radicalism,  can be found here: https://thepointmag.com/criticism/when-losing-is-likely/ For more with Dr. East you can read his collected writings here: https://www.bradeast.org/about  Music by Prod Riddiman: https://www.youtube.com/c/ProdRiddiman/videos