As a prelude to the next Series 5 episode with Professor Alf Collins, the Godfather of Shared Decision Making, we have dug into the Aural Apothecary Archives and found one of our best episodes about the importance of having meaningful conversations with patients about medicines. Enjoy first time around if a new listener, or even more second time around if a loyal fan … Jonathan Underhill is a consultant clinical adviser for NICE and has a research interest in Evidence-Informed Decision Making. We discuss the new NICE 5 year strategy, Shared Decision Making and what autobiographies can teach us about human behaviour. Alongside this we discuss his love of The Boss, animals and drug allergies and a toxicology murder-mystery. As with all our guests we ask Jonathan to pick his ‘Desert Island Drug’, a career defining anthem and a book that has influenced his work. You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here; https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/31270100-paulgimson?ref=nav_mybooks&shelf=the-aural-apothecary You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=a7c4915ce1b54c37 To get in touch follow us on Twitter @auralapothecary or email us at [email protected]