On this episode, Juliet talks with Dr. Kristen Hopewell, the Canada Research Chair in Global Policy in the School of Public Policy and Global Affairs at the University of British Columbia. Also a Wilson China Fellow, Kristen's work sheds light on how international governing bodies like the WTO and OECD can influence and be influenced by growing Chinese agricultural trade, subsidies, and export credit, combined with the increasing exercise of power by emerging powers coming to the international forefront. Who wins and who loses? Today's interview is based on: 1) Clash of Powers: US-China Rivalry in Global Trade Governance, Cambridge University Press, 2020 2) Breaking the WTO: How Emerging Powers Disrupted the Neoliberal Project, Stanford University Press, 2016 3) What is 'Made in China 2025' – and why is it a threat to Trump's trade goals?, Washington Post, 2018 Check out our recommendations! Kristen: Essays of the Rise of China and its Implications, Wilson Center Juliet: Food in China's international relations, D. Zha and H. Zhang, 2013 ~Special thanks to Maggie Gaus, who joined the Belt and Road Pod team in Dec 2020 and edited this episode~