Guest host Rich Berra and Hollywood special effects expert Bill Kimberlin discuss working with George Lucas on Star Wars at the legendary filmmaker's secluded Skywalker Ranch.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest host Connie Willis and an open lines caller debate whether demonic spirits from a higher realm tried to disrupt her program, if aliens attempt to build fear to keep us under their control, and if humans are the only beings in the universe truly capable of expressing love. See...