Elis James and Lucy Beresford chat with Great British Sewing Bee judge, Patrick Grant break bread as he explains how learning to make chapatis encouraged him to develop social connections with new people. Research from The Big Lunch reveals that 57% of us are more likely to say hello and stop for a chat after lockdown, so Patrick shares his experience of how ditching convenience culture has helped him connect with people in the real world. Meanwhile, Lucy offers up practical advice on the small steps we can take to make new friends, and why our passions are a simple first step.    Please note, this podcast was recorded before the UK went into lockdown.