Hello again! Judge Steve Alm (ret.) joins us on this episode, as wrap up our interviews with the candidates to be Honolulu's next prosecutor -- at this point, we've interviewed all the good ones. Judge Alm talked with us about life, his long career in the law, and HOPE probation, a program Judge Alm created that has been proven to keep people out of jail and lower recidivism rates among convicted people. We also talked with Judge Alm about the importance of ending cash bail (he agreed) and training Honolulu's prosecutors to do what's right, rather than what looks good. Take a listen, subscribe, and pass this episode along!