“We always had privacy violation, we had people being blamed falsely for crimes they didn’t do, we had mis-diagnostics, we also had false news, but what AI has done is amplify all this, and make it bigger,” says Google’s Nyalleng Moorosi. In Episode 5, she and philosopher Matthew Liao debate the delicate balance between personal moral agency, human rights and corporate responsibility in the brave new world of artificial intelligence. We need to understand more about these principles, not just to list them, says Liao, because then there’s a worry that we’re just doing ethics washing — they sound good but they don’t have any bite. To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Anima and John on the subject of Creative AI. Nyalleng Moorosi is a research software engineer at Google working on ethics and democratising AI. S. Matthew Liao is a philosopher and bioethicist.