Laura and Bernhard talk to astrologer, psychotherapist, and author Mark Jones about Spiritual Psychology and Evolutionary Astrology and why we need a more holistic psychos-spiritual approach in self-work and the therapy space. Mark talks about the pitfalls of dogmatic traditional astrology when not combined with psycho-spiritual work, the trap of working on the false self, the issue with mainstream self-help and generic coaching, PsychoSynthesis, the shadow side and future of astrology, and more. Mark's website: markjonesastrology.com Show Notes Part 1: * The limitation of using astrology without psycho-spiritual work * Mark's journey and how he got into spiritual psychology and evolutionary astrology * The limitation of classic psycho-analysis * Mark's experience of studying with David Hawkins and what he learned * The map of consciousness and how people live out specific states of consciousness * The importance of the will and willingness * The will in spiritual work is different than the will of the ego * The issue with mainstream self-help (Tony Robbins, etc) and generic coaching * The trap of working on the wrong/false self * Personality vs Essence * Quality vs. Quantity * Astrology and the potential for Psycho-Spiritual work * Mistaking gathering intellectual information for the work and understanding * Mark's experience with Gurdjieff's work * Mark's take on Pluto in Aquarius and the splitting of humanity * Assigioli and PsychoSynthesis * The necessity for psychological work AND spiritual work * The necessity to aspire to the Divine * The real war is within In Part 2 (only for members), we go deeper into: * Mark's experience of studying Evolutionary Astrology with the founder, Jeffrey Wolf-Green * The uniqueness of evolutionary astrology in the context of soul evolution and Pluto transits * Mark's approach to evolutionary astrology * Collective evolution, history, and the planetary nodes * A person's birth chart becomes "alive" by the level of consciousness it is lived out * The issue with traditional "black and white" astrology and predictive astrology * The space-time moment of a birth chart * Astrology and Cosmic Paranoia * When astrologers take the birth chart too seriously with their black-and-white literal interpretations * Embracing the Unknown * The danger of astrology when in the hands of an incompetent "overconfident" astrologer * The shadow side of astrology * The necessity of combining astrology with PsychoSpiritual work * The level of being of the astrologer determines the quality of the reading * The limitation of taking any one modality/teaching as the sole foundation * Truth is a pathless land * The future of astrology * Information and stimulation overload, the loss of creativity, and the way out Go HERE to listen to Part 2 if you’re a member or REGISTER to become a member to access the membership section (including the membership forum.) [Intro and outro music clip by Seeded Vision]