Highlight – “Out of the Being Comes the Doing.”  In this episode, Matt Dabbs engages Jim Putman, founder and senior pastor of Real Life Ministries, to have a meaningful conversation that offers valuable insights drawn from Putman's book 'DiscipleShift', uncovering the five critical shifts churches can make to inspire disciples who create more disciples. Putman encourages a shift from reaching people to making disciples, from informing people to equipping disciple-makers. This candid exchange offers potent observations that challenge traditional church structures, bringing ministers and disciples closer to realizing the abundant life promised by Jesus. Check out our NEW Disciple Shift Ebook Check out the entire book Disciple Shift Join Jim Putman at our national Forum this May on Disciple Making Culture: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/   Watch the Video     Key Takeaways  00:00 Meet Jim Putman 00:40 Discussing the Book 'Disciple Shift' 01:04 Understanding the Five Shifts 02:37 The Importance of Relationship in Discipleship 03:20 The Challenges of Staying on Course 04:51 The Role of Relationship in Leadership 08:49 The Disconnect in Church Methodology 11:08 The Struggles of Pastors and the Need for Relationship 14:14 The Importance of Discipleship in the Church 18:45 The Role of Relationship in Discipleship 27:51 The Pace of Discipleship 28:41 Understanding Different Learning Styles and Pace in Discipleship 29:38 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Discipleship 31:20 The Challenges of Being an Introverted Pastor 32:21 The Shift from Accumulating to Deploying in Ministry 35:15 The Importance of Teamwork in Church Leadership 36:13 The Importance of Balance in Church Leadership 37:39 The Dangers of One-Dimensional Churches 39:56 The Importance of Submission in Discipleship 48:28 Conclusion: The Importance of Being a Disciple Before Making Disciples 49:24 The Importance of Honesty and Vulnerability in Discipleship   Join us at our National Forum this May on Disciple Making Culture