In this episode, Jay and Sarah discuss their journeys into tech and cave diving. They share their experiences and the challenges they faced along the way. They also discuss the different mindsets and motivations behind tech diving, including the appeal of exploring unique environments and the importance of humility in the diving community. They emphasize the need for continuous learning and skill development in order to safely enjoy the benefits of tech diving. They explore the importance of considering future paths and not rushing into teaching or new diving styles. They emphasize the need to slow down and take time to learn and develop different skills. They also highlight the mental game of technical diving and the importance of critical thinking and decision-making. The conversation delves into the choice between side-mount and back-mount configurations and the advantages and disadvantages of each. They stress the importance of progressive training and choosing the right tool for the dive and the conversation concludes with a discussion on the passion and philosophy of technical diving. We hope you enjoy our latest episode! If you enjoyed this episode and want to be a part of this growing community, you can join us in a couple of ways:  1.  Subscribe to the podcast so you get notified when new episodes drop; 2.  Leave a rating wherever you listen to your podcasts; 3.  Send the link to the show; thedivetable.com to a dive buddy, your dive team, or your last scuba instructor. 4.  Share your thoughts with us by leaving us a voicemail here on our website or say howdy. The Dive Table https://www.thedivetable.com/ Gardner Underwater https://gardnerunderwater.com/ Sarah Miller www.azulunlimited.com Fish Dive Surf, Inc. https://fishdivesurf.com/ Chapters 00:00Introduction and Dad Jokes 02:40Background on Tech Diving 06:09Sarah's Journey into Tech Diving 10:28Jay's Journey into Tech Diving 15:00The Appeal of Cave Diving 21:07The Mindset of Cave Diving 24:32The Humility of Tech Diving 28:48Refreshing Tech Diving Skills 35:37The Ego in Tech Diving 44:23Considering Future Paths 46:59The Importance of Slowing Down 50:57The Mental Game of Technical Diving 53:20Critical Thinking and Decision Making 55:12Choosing Between Sidemount and Backmount 01:00:07Progressive Training and Building Skills 01:04:45Considering Individual Limitations 01:07:19Advantages and Disadvantages of Different Configurations 01:14:22The Goal of Redundancy 01:17:31Taking the Right Tool for the Dive 01:21:48The Passion and Philosophy of Technical Diving