In this episode 002 of The E of real estate, we had Niels de Vries as our guest. A school building and the area around it have an impact on students and staff using the building. I explored Niels's perspective on how an educational environment can be used as a management tool to enhance not only organisational goals but also user experience. Niels is a real estate advisor for over 25 years. He was a course leader and trainer for a successful real estate management course that lasted for 7 years. Niels specialised in the management of school buildings. How they can contribute to organisational targets. At the moment he is Policy advisor for educational buildings for a municipality in the Netherlands. For more information: The E of real estate