Pammy Johal is the founder of Backbone CIC which she set up to celebrate diversity through adventure connecting underrepresented groups with nature and the outdoors. Through their work, Backbone provides opportunities for Black, Asian and minority ethnic and marginalised communities to form relationships with the outdoor and environmental sectors. Born in the 60’s in inner city Coventry to a Sikh immigrant family, Pammy was introduced to the mountains at the age of 16 when a school trip changed her life. Pammy has been an outdoor/environmental practioner since 1979 and in 1995 it struck her hard as she noticed the lack of Black, Asian & Minority Ethnic role models in the sector, at every level, from service users to Board level and felt very strongly this had to change. This laid the foundations for the pioneering work she has driven forward over the last 25 years. This is a raw and open conversation about the challenges Pammy has faced in her quest to open up opportunities in the outdoors for under represented communities, her frustration at the lack of progress  and the hope she has for the future as a new generation of diverse and passionate outdoor practitioners help to change the narrative and push the boundaries even further. Find out more about Pammy and her work at: website: https://www.backbone.uk.net/ Instagram: @backbonecicdiversity Facebook: @backbone.cic Twitter: @BackboneCIC THE EVERYDAY ADVENTURE PODCAST Contact Nicki about The Everyday Adventure Podcast, Coaching or Resilience & Leadership  Workshops for Leaders, Teams and Individuals: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.resiliencework.co.uk Instagram: @resilienceatwork ,  @everydayadventurepod Watch Nicki's TEDx Talk: TEDx Moseley: The Life Changing Power of Everyday Adventures Join us for our 2022 Coastal Resilience & Adventure Retreat in Croyde Bay from 30 Sept - 2 Oct! Check out the link here for more information or email me at [email protected]://www.resiliencework.co.uk/coastal-adventures