Author Daniel Pinchbeck and Destin discuss the courage required from us individually and collectively to face the shadow presented to us by a President Trump as well as by the ecological crisis we face. According to Daniel, we can see this period as an initiation or a rite of passage for humanity as a species. What is the next "operating system" for human society? How might it work and how can we contribute to it? Daniel Pinchbeck is the bestselling author of Breaking Open the Head and 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl. His new book, How Soon Is Now?, comes out in February from Watkins howsoonisnow.info. He was a founder of Reality Sandwich and Evolver.net. He was featured in the 2010 documentary, 2012: Time for Change. He is currently launching a new media platform, WOKE Woke.network.