For this episode we are joined by philosopher and existential psychotherapist Emmy van Deurzen. Emmy has not only written a whole host of books, but is also Principal of the New School of Psychotherapy and Counselling at the Existential Academy in London. A perfect guest for this podcast, Emmy chats with us about a whole range of topics, including helping us understand what existential therapy is, and how it can help people in their lives. We also talk about Thomas Szasz (who was the topic of the previous podcast episode) and Emmy describes the ways in which she both agrees and disagrees with the Szaszian view of mental illness. Finally, there is brief mention of Brexit and the idea that politics is also an existential endeavour. You can find out more about Emmy at her website, http://www.emmyvandeurzen.com/