This week showcases a conversation with David Van Cleave, who has dedicated almost 32 years to the state park system, serving as park ranger, ecologist, and superintendent, and also as senior project director at The Nature Conservancy. During David’s tenure, he managed programs in Southern California, Northern Baja, and San Diego. In the episode, David talks about what makes the backcountry so special, and conservancy through alternative energy sources and land acquisition. He talks about how the ethos of conservation in the backcountry has evolved, but also where we need to focus our efforts in order to have a successful future.   Timestamps: [3:08] David talks about working at the Anza Borrego Desert State Park and the Nature Conservancy. [4:00] How David got involved with Volcan Mountain. [6:44] The Anza Borrego Foundation is recognized as a premier partner organization for state parks today. [7:30] David speaks about a few of the many things that make San Diego’s backcountry unique. [9:24] The role of the state of California and federal agencies in conservation. [13:01] Why more people should take advantage of San Isabel State Park. [14:47] David’s book, A Greatness of Spirit — Tales of Extraordinary Rangers at the Heart of California’s State Park System, honors 14 State Park Rangers in California. [16:27] How has the ethos of conservation in the backcountry changed? [22:05] What needs to change in both the practice and policy of conservation in San Diego’s backcountry?   About C-3 Even before the California Coastal Commission or Environmental Protection Agency existed, Citizens Coordinate for Century 3 (C-3) was the environmental conscience of San Diego. Since that time, in part due to C-3’s leadership in education, advocacy, and empowerment, a plethora of organizations have developed throughout San Diego County. These organizations specifically focus on promoting progressive values in architecture, urban design, land-use governance, natural resource management, sustainable economic development, climate change resilience, and social justice. As the field of allies has grown, C-3’s role has evolved to provide a platform that promotes creating civic community.    Opportunities for Advocacy and Engagement: C3sandiego.org The Nature Conservancy — San Diego Anza Borrego Desert State Park A Greatness of Spirit