This week Jeremy interviews acclaimed producer and musician Kurt Ballou of the band Converge. On this episode Jeremy and Kurt talk polar plunge, living in Massachusetts, Grateful Dead, detailed lyrics sheets, Sam Black Church, playing saxophone, appreciating jazz, meeting Jake Bannon, how he joined Converge, Cro-Mags, the first Converge 7”, breaking through with Cave In, living with Piebald, the history of Kurt's many iconic productions, plus so much more! SUBSCRIBE TO THE PATREON for a bonus episode where Kurt answered questions that were submitted by subscribers! Follow the show on INSTAGRAM and TWITTER Want some First Ever Podcast merch? Click here!