What happens when the person you need to forgive isn’t around? That was the question that inspired Katherine to reach out to grief and loss expert David Kessler. David and Katherine discuss how anger in grief and forgiveness overlap, and how finding peace with yourself is the best way to manage any trials in your life.  For more of David's work, you can visit his website, Grief.com. You can get a copy of Katherine's book, The Gift of Forgiveness, wherever books are sold. Photo by Johanna Brinckman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices