Roger Hallam is the co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, Radical Routes, Burning Pink, and Just Stop Oil. On today's show, we discuss strategy for the climate and ecological movements, the role of mass street protests and public assemblies, violence vs. nonviolence, revolutions throughout history, the collapse of industrial civilization, the dangers of fascism, practical organizing tips, and more. While we don't agree with Roger on everything, we're always thrilled to discuss these topics with passionate and hardworking people. Roger's website is https://rogerhallam.com/. The Green Flame podcast could use your support! JOIN the email list for the new confederation: https://mailchi.mp/4b63d232c6ee/soft-launch DONATE to The Green Flame: https://gofund.me/514f19bb Leaving us a positive review or rating helps us reach a larger audience. You can also share these shows with your friends. And finally, the goal of this show is to activate people. So if you really want to support this show, start organizing in your own community. Thank you again for listening.