This episode features a presentation that Ben Jacobs (trained urban planner and host of the Wittenberg of Westphalia podcast) and Ryan Stitt (trained Ancient Greek and host of The History of Ancient Greece podcast) gave at Intelligent Speech 2020, a virtual conference for podcast producers and consumers. We discuss the form and function of cities in the ancient and early modern worlds. For the video of our conversion, follow this link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/26tc9oftc5mephc/Intelligent%20Speech%202020%20%28Ancient%20and%20Early%20Modern%20Cities%29.mp4