Welcome to After Hours with Hand & Heart. No scripts, a few quips, and most certainly: no b******t. CW: we discuss abusive work environments, harrassment and bullying. One a personal note from Kate: this is something I wish I'd done throughout the course of last year - but time did not allow it. As the ground is rumbling below the feet of Brewdog and Copenhagen food, it felt like it was time to create a space to have a conversation not only about what is happening, but look back at was has happened. What I hope you as a listener would get from this program, which will be released as and when it is possible to, is thoughtful discussions about nuanced topics. And with that, welcome to the very first episode of After Hours. It's poetic, it's beautiful, it's... the only way it could be, to have Fanny Wandel joining me. Not as a source, but an industry peer, who has seen some shit. Thanks for tuning in, and if you do enjoy the conversation you are about to hear - please support indie media by rating and reviewing us on your favorite podcast app. Also all the others ones... tee hee. Enjoy the conversation! - Follow Fanny on social platforms via @fannywandel. - Contact H&H: [email protected] - Follow Hand & Heart on Instagram @handandheart.eu and Kate on Twitter: @_kate_bailey_ - Original music by Julia Laws. - Produced by Kate Bailey, additional editing from the team, for Hand & Heart Media. - All rights reserved for Hand & Heart GmbH.