How to have a consistent meditation practice instead of adding it to your list of shoulds. Meditation is a hot topic that everyone talks about, yet so many of us find resistance in it being a consistent, fulfilling practice. You’re not the only one that struggles with meditating, whether you’re struggling in your current practice to stay consistent or struggling because you don’t have a practice in the first place.   This episode might help you fall in love with meditation!    Debra is joined by Kilkenny Tremblay, Yoga and Meditation professor and host of Modern Mystic Podcast, who in addition to being a lifelong lover of meditation, yoga, and other spiritual teachings, is an alumni of Debra’s Applied Astrology school.    Kilkenny and Debra discuss how meditation is a dynamic practice, not a one-size-fits-all approach. Debra sheds light on a part of Kilkenny’s Astrological chart that countless other professional Astrologers have seemed to avoid, making Kilkenny’s point of how solid Debra’s approach and Astrological method is, and how Astrology terminology will soon be as fluent to the masses as yoga has become.    The history and dynamics of Pluto are highlighted, bridging the connection between Kilkenny’s intense passion for life and her work, and her ability to speak to the seen and unseen, the magical and the mundane.    Here’s your chance to learn about the influence of Pluto in Astrology and update your perspective on why meditation is so powerful. Plus you’ll hear tips on how to integrate meditation fully into your life, and if you have children, how to get them interested, too!    Learn more about Kilkenny Tremblay at https://bit.ly/kilkennymodernmystic  Key Highlights From The Episode How to have a consistent meditation practice following simple tips from Kilkenny and Debra The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit Kilkenny’s top tip on how to get children interested in meditation (it’s easy!) Discovering Pluto in historical terms and its Astrological symbolism and effects Why Kilkenny enrolled in Applied Astrology and what sets Debra’s method of Astrology apart from other Astrologers Timestamps [00:50] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Kilkenny Tremblay [04:17] What Kilkenny experienced at five years old that was her entrance into the spiritual world [05:23] Kilkenny shares about her mediation practice and matching meditations to the disposition of the person practicing [07:28] How often does Kilkenny practice meditation? [08:24] Sharing Kilkenny’s chart and the Astrological indicator that gives a nod to Kilkenny’s easy access to meditation [10:03] The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit [11:53] A brief mention of Kilkenny’s time in Debra’s Applied Astrology school and the connection of the mind (Mercury) to meditation [13:33] The spiritual inheritance people experience (or don’t) in their lifetimes and the Astrological fluency that is coming soon  [15:34] Walking through Kilkenny’s chart again, speaking to an aspect in her Astrology chart that so many Astrologers didn’t speak to in Kilkenny’s life [19:13] How Pluto in Kilkenny’s Astrological chart shows her intense intention for her life, and discussing parts of the history of Pluto scientifically and spiritually  [21:24] Kilkenny speaks to how her strong Plutonian signature shows up in her life [23:48] Kilkenny shares some of her favorite episodes from her own podcast, Modern Mystic [25:23] Debra shares more on the history of Pluto and its representation of the invisible world [27:22] What Kilkenny always says to people about the benefit of meditation [29:23] The ability of meditation to put us out of the victim mentality and back into the driver’s seat [31:45] Debra and Kilkenny speak briefly to the initial resistance to m