Many of you have requested for this episode, and now here it is. Before you press that play button however, on the off-chance you are reading this, we want to put out a clear disclaimer that all of us on TIGS, from Indah herself to the rest of the team, unequivocally stand with our queer brothers & sisters here in Indonesia as well as the rest of the world, in support and allyship to the broad LGBTQIA+ community. We at TIGS believe that two things can be true at once, that you can support a movement whilst still 1) having questions about certain elements of the movement, and 2) disagreeing with certain talking points that are commonly espoused by members of that movement, and that is what this discussion with Anil is intended to showcase. We want to show that we can have a proper, well-balanced, objective discussion about people's lives, and go about changing people's hearts and minds in a level-headed and compassionate manner, instead of the usual hot-headed polarized debate that's meant to farm cheap views & engagement. We hope you enjoy. Timestamps: 01:55 — Is J.K Rowling Transphobic? 11:13 — Bathroom & Changing Room Debate 29:58 — Something that mainstream media deems transphobic but isn’t; Bill C16, Free speech debate 48:00 - Are cis people different from trans people? Should trans people be able to compete against cis people in sports? 01:00:12 — Trans children and how to navigate that; Gender dysphoria, gender incongruence & the DSM-5 01:30:44 - Transracialism; Explaining how and why race is largely a social construct; Transgender vs. Trans*xual Anil does not wish for his information to be shared to the public. Full episodes of The Indah G Show are available every Tuesday 6:00 PM WIB (Indonesia) time on YouTube, Spotify & Apple Podcast. Episode clips (with Indonesian captions) are also available on Instagram & TikTok.