Avatar: The Way of Water is now passing over the $2 billion dollar box office mark as audiences return to cinema in record numbers to witness this spectacular visual masterpiece. Years in the making, the performance capture techniques and virtual photography used on the film placed heavy demands on the editorial team. Two of those editors, Stephen Rivkin and John Refoua, join Wim and Jim in this podcast episode to reveal what it was like working with James Cameron and how they built a workflow that aimed to maximize efficiency and creativity.