Former West Midlands Police detective Ellie Baker lived at the Slater home in Birmingham during Stephanie’s kidnapping in 1992. Ellie explains how she prepared Stephanie’s father with techniques to keep the kidnapper on the phone if he rang. Also in this episode, Julie Dart’s uncle Gary Atkin takes Andy to the street in Leeds where Julie was kidnapped by Michael Sams. Producer: Andy Whittaker. Online Producer: Rachael Smith. Executive Editor, BBC Radio Nottingham: Chris Pegg. Executive Producer: Kathryn Morrison.