To kick off our 2nd season, I have two fantastic guests this episode: Angelica Leigh and Shimul Melwani, co-authors of the Best Paper published in AMJ in 2022, entitled, “Am I Next?” The Spillover Effects of Mega-Threats on Avoidant Behaviors at Work" In our conversation, we talk about the phenomenon of “Mega-threats” and how they impact behaviors at work.   I also talk with them about their experiences working on a topic with so much emotional and social heft, as well as their views on the ongoing debate about the role of race as we study organizations a.k.a. “Naming The Thing”. Angelica is an Assistant Professor of Management and Organizations at Duke University's Fuqua School of Business.  Shimul is an Associate Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Kenan-Flagler Business School at UNC.