Summary Mapuana Reed interviews her friend Kamaile about her entrepreneurial journey, focusing on starting Okole by Kamaile and the challenges faced along the way. They discuss the ups and downs of running a business, letting go of the past, and embracing the present. Kamaile shares her experience of moving to the mainland, advocating for herself, and finding self-identity. She emphasizes personal growth, the importance of validating one's joy, and offers advice for facing difficult moments. Kamaile invites listeners to connect with her through Okole by Kamaile. Chapters: [00:45] About Kamaile[2:50] Why Kamaile decided to start one of her businesses and transition out of one[3:30] Evolving proudly as a woman[7:55] Living an unapologetic life and giving ing yourself permission to be yourself[11:20] Are you too attached to your past identity or are you behaving like the woman you want to be?[12:10] Why do we shame ourselves and other for evolving?[14:07] What Kamaile would tell herself in her lowest moment if she could go back in time[17:40] Experiencing yourself through living multiple versions of yourself through multiple versions of your life[20:00] Learning to let go of past identities so you can step into new dreams[21:30] Just get in the arena and stop sitting on the sidelines[23:25] What the decision process was like deciding to move to the Mainland[29:00] Protecting our Hawaiian culture while also allowing ourselves to expand[34:00] Wanting more for yourself as a woman[36:20] The difference between surrendering and choosing to let go of something[39:15] You get to change whenever you want to[40:19] The biggest piece of advice that Kamaile would give to her daughter/younger women[41:40] Connect with Kamaile   Follow: Mapuana Reed @mapuanareed Kamaile Heide @kamaile.heide @okolebykamaile