This week, Margaret talks with host of the podcast Shut Up Evan, Evan Ross Katz about his and Margaret’s future kiki. Then, she speaks with comedian and writer Bruce Daniels about his experience of race in America, as well as old memories of them hanging out together back in the day. Also in this episode: - Bruce and Margaret break down the disconnect between what you are taught about history in school vs. the actual truth.  - Evan and Margaret agree that there’s just something queer about Lisa Rinna. To learn more about Evan, follow him @evanrosskatz To learn more about Bruce, follow him @brucedaniels The Margaret Cho is an Earios production. Theme music by Garrison Starr. Contact Margaret at [email protected]. Edited by Tracy Levy.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.