Fernanda Lira of Crypto is back on the show and she's here to celebrate Crypta's second album Shades of Sorrow. coming out August 4. During our chat, we discuss why writing the debut album  proved to be more challenging than its follow up, how important it was to find the right identity for the project, and some of the major issues bands are facing with high costs and how it effects touring. Speaking of money matters, we chat about Patreon and why it's becoming an important tool for bands, making music videos that are awesome on a small budget, and the importance of album artwork for death metal. Elsewhere in the show, Petar and Sylvia discuss Phil Bozeman’s comments on wanting metal to intimidate him, Deafheaven’s 10 year mark of Sunbather, and Fear Factory celebrating the 25th anniversary of Obsolete. Song: Crypta “Lords of Ruin” Song: Crypta “Trial of Traitors” Song: Voyager “Ultraviolet” featuring Sean Harmanis of Make The Suffer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices