Why are so many of our kids showing signs of trauma when they live in relative safety? How do we raise counter-cultural kids in a world of excess? Today, Dawn is joined by Kim John Payne, M.ED., who has been a counselor, educator, consultant, and researcher for over thirty years.  IN THIS EPISODE:  -The one thing Kim would say to parents right now -What lead Kim to study simplicity in parenting -A formula for unstructured playtime -Importance of rhythms vs. routines  -Parenting as a governor, gardener, and guide  ABOUT KIM JOHN PAYNE: Kim John Payne is an Australian who has, for 24 years, worked throughout the world as a counselor, consultant/researcher and educator of both children and adults. He has been helping children, adolescents and families explore issues such as social difficulties with siblings and classmates, attention and behavioral issues at home and school, and a range of emotional issues such as defiance, aggression, addiction and self-esteem. BOOKS: Simplicity Parenting Book: https://amzn.to/4c9P7VQ Being at Your Best When Your Kids are at Their Worst: https://amzn.to/3T5Tokh The Soul of Discipline: The Simplicity Parenting Approach to Warm, Firm, and Calm Guidance -- From Toddlers to Teens: https://amzn.to/3VahD3p Reset Your Child's Brain, 4 Week Screen Detox: https://amzn.to/3wVCxsM Welcome to The Official Minimal Mom Podcast. Thank you so much for listening and could I ask a favor? Would you mind following? It helps podcast apps recommend this podcast to more friends. Thank you! Dawn