Today I have Joey Odom, Cofounder of Aro, on the podcast to talk all about the importance of changing our habits with our phones. Many of us know our habits with picking up our phones and scrolling so often are harming us and our relationships in some way, but it can be difficult to change these habits. Joey brings plenty of research to this conversation to help us build a deep why for working towards real habit change in this area. We talk about practical tips for changing the habit in ourselves, but also in our older kids if they are struggling with their relationships with their phones as well. This conversation is full of hard truths, but also tons of grace. As parents, it's so important that we get intentional about our phone usage and create an example for our kids. I hope you'll listen in and be inspired and encouraged today in this extremely relevant topic. Links: Your Minimal-ish Holidays Aro Website Aro Podcast Aro on Instagram Desirae on Instagram Podcast Website Sponsors: This episode is sponsored by Better Help: Get 10% off your first episode at betterhelp.com/minimalish Thanks to Factor for Sponsoring today's episode: Head to factormeals.com/minimalish50 and use code minimalish50 to get 50% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices