In this episode, I am joined by a member of the San Pedro Town Council, Gary Greif.  I asked Gary to be on this episode because he is not the typical politician, he does have his own ideas and his opinions, many that I can appreciate. I am not trying to get political nor is my intention to create a divide. The intention is to simply talk about things, if we don't talk about them we cannot fix them. This is about things we may not understand about the way we are governed. We mainly speak on our own municipality (San Pedro),  but that can also be replaced with other areas in the country or maybe even other areas in the world. It's the moral of the story more than anything. It can be relatable.    My intention with this show, among a couple of other things, is to highlight different career paths, being a politician can be one of those. Maybe one or two or hopefully even 3 of my listeners are aspiring to be a politician, maybe they feel they can make that stand and make much-needed changes. Maybe you agree with some of the points made or maybe you disagree. That's great that means you are thinking for yourselves. and that's another one of my intentions for this.   I hope you are able to listen to this with open ears and open minds, and that something is gained. This podcast is also available on Youtube.